hey guys, thanks for the response...ill try and include a screenshot of the res tab, but the values i said up there were correct, no typoes...i ended up just using 608*336 for the res, so its kinda a moot point, but i'm still curious thanks ...it seems my pic doesn't want to work...anyway, the crop values are L20, T66, R20, B66, the video is NTSC 4:3 non anamorphic, the AR in the crop box is 1.776, width and height 680*348...on the slider, when i move so the width is 640, the height is 368, giving an H-zoom of 106%, the only other red box is on the left hand side of the output res box, under Stats Pixels, it is 114.7%...bits/ pixel*frame box is as follows: 0.174 48.9% of 0.355 , vid size is 56.1% if you need more info, just let me know