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VC-1 over MPEG-4 AVC on Blu-Ray?

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How come VC-1 is such a popular choice on Blu-Ray? It seems like most movies today are encoded in VC-1, whilst some are encoded in MPEG-4 AVC. A few, very rarely, are encoded in MPEG-2. Now, MPEG-2 I understand the lack thereof: it's old, outdated and requires a much higher bitrate for the same amount of picture quality. But MPEG-4 AVC certainly competes very well against VC-1 in terms of quality and bitrate ratio. What's the deal here? Is Microsoft bribing the movie studios to encode their Blu-Ray movies in VC-1?

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05.12.24 - 14:33:34
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RE: VC-1 over MPEG-4 AVC on Blu-Ray?

What, you think people choose the video format on Blu-ray for quality reasons? The authoring houses involved in these decisions often wouldn't know good video quality if it hit them upside the head with a sledgehammer. Plus, at the bitrates Blu-ray allows, if your encode has any visual difference from your source, you're doing it wrong, whether with VC-1 or H.264, or even MPEG-2.

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05.12.24 - 14:38:29
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I don't know how relevant it is as a factor, but trick mode implementation is much easier with VC-1.

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05.12.24 - 14:49:42
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So okay, we can rule out the quality factor for the sake of argument (I'm still convinced that MPEG-4 AVC requires much less size storage with the same quality, which is definitely a plus, but anyway). What other incentives do movie studios have to use VC-1 over MPEG-4 AVC? Is it encoding time? Somehow, I doubt that would be an issue.

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05.12.24 - 14:57:40
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What's the link for the bluray stats site, please? VC-1 also has an in-loop filter, BTW.

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05.12.24 - 15:07:52
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Here you go: It's a great souce of info andt there's also . And as far as the inloop filter goes I actually was leading to the fact that there seem to be discs where it has been turned off for AVC - thus giving the whole thing a more grittier look - one that you hardly ever see with VC-1.

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05.12.24 - 15:13:57
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LOL!!!! Cmon.. our quality service is ~8.5 :D

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