We, record producer, home studio hobbyists and starving artists mixing that 1536th demo comsume macs as french consume red wine and marocan consume haschich. Often and with passion. Anyway, I am surprised: 99.7% of potential consumers compare mac prices taking apple's configured system prices. So when they say a Dual 800 costs $3499, they don't realise they are, for example, paying $200 for a 128Meg stick. YES! Go to the apple sore, select the Dual, and change the RAM from 256 to 128: BAM, instant $200 discount. I am trying to advertise as much as possible, and I wish people would realize that the real base prices for the simplest configuration of the new macs are as follow: Mac configured with: 128M RAM 40G HD Ultra ATA66 5400rpm CDRW 12x8x32x Video Card NVIDIA GeForce2 MX (32Megas) Lexmark Z32 Color Jetprinter 733Mhz = And then switch to a 867 for $300 more, and a Dual 800 for $900 more. To sum it up: 733Mhz = $1,670.00 867Mhz = $1,970.00 2x800Mhz = $ 2,570.00 [ July 23, 2001: Message edited by: Kickin.da.speaker ]