IFOUpdate Adjusted Cell Mode

I copied this from the large thread by jdobbs on ifoupdate and the "adjusted cell mode" technique: 1. Rip the DVD to a directory using SmartRipper or DVDDecrypter. 2. Look at the directory and pick out the VTS (the big one) holding the movie 3. Open the IFO for that VTS with IFOUpdate. 4. Set to "Adjusted Cell" mode, and write the chapter files. 5. Run DVD2AVI against the entire VTS set 6. Create an AVISYNTH .AVS file to feed to CCE. 7. Open up CCE, load the .AVS, set parameters, and save the .ECL file. 8. With a text editor, open the .ECL file -- and add the CCE chapter points - If FILM source use the FILM .TXT file else use the other - If you're new to this -- search the forum 9. Open CCE again and reload the ECL -- encode the movie 10. Run PULLDOWN if necessary. 11. Load the file into an authoring package with audio 12. Set the chapters based on the output of step 4. - The file will import directly into Maestro 13. After you've completed, save he orginal .BUP and IFO files - This is not required but is a good way to be safe 14. Run IFOUpdate and update the original file (in "Adjusted Cell" mode). 15. All done. Do any other VTS sets that may need to shrink. My question: Since this technique is demuxing by VTS, how can I demux subtitles such that they will work? As far as I can tell, vobsub only demuxes by vobid? Am I right? Does this mean I can't incorporate subtitles using this technique?

Just use subrip on the entire vobset. Or subrip and choose all vobids together.

I've been a big fan of adjusted cell mode since JDobbs developed it... was actually dreaming that the compiled cell/chapter output would onday be included... one of THE main advantages of adjusted cell mode is that it resolves subs content with minimum effort... IF you recreate the title using the appropriate method.... THE one for all and all for one backup method is as follows: 1. Decrypt as usual.. 2. Strip unwanted subs/audio with IFOEdit. 3. DVD2AVI the VTS, demux the audio as the project file is saved using "Demux all tracks" option. 4. Analyse and save chaps for the required VTS with IFOUpdate, use "adjusted cell" mode. 5. Make avs file.. pull onto CCE.. set encoding options and save ECL. open ECL with notepad and paste in chaps from Adjusted-CCE.txt Reload ECL and encode as usual. 6. Open VTS in VOBEdit and demux the subs content required. 7. Put it all back together using "Author new DVD" function in IFOEdit... load m2v, AC3 and subs, (multiple Audio and subs are supported and so is DTS btw) load chapters from the IFOEDIT-CELLTIMES.TXT file created by IFOUpdate and MUX to chosen output Dir. 8. Copy NEW VTS from Output dir(VOBS ONLY, leave ALL IFO's alone) into dir that has other required files from title. Point IFOUpdate at this dir and select the IFO for the VTS as the "original". Select the IFO created by IFOEdit during the mux/author as the "authored" IFO and then IFO update as usual. Finally re-open orig IFO in IFOEdit and copy the orig subs colours from the PGC in question. Open the updated IFO and paste the subs colours into the PGC and save the file. I use the above method on ALL titles, ALL structures. I always keep ALL english subs.. there are methods tricks to assign the correct ID values to the subs/audio if required and also to beat issues such as audio and sub synch if they become problamatical. I VERY VERY rarely have probs, I'd say "Never" but you "never say never" do you ?. (audio delay probs covered here btw, just look for the post with the word "audio" highlighted) JDobbs adjusted cell mode mod to IFOUpdate and the Author mode in IFOEdit are the best inclusions in any backup method since the scene started....

Wow, thanks for filling in the blanks so completely :-) That is an excellent guide. I've used the adjusted cell mode several times before, but never following your steamlined technique and never being able to include subs. I'm going to try your technique, but a few questions first: 1) Do you do PAL or NTSC disks? I'm in NTSC land and I heard that ifoedit may have issues with muxing NTSC disks. I've always used Maestro or Scenarist to author so I don't have any experience with it yet. 2) What about closed captions? Not a huge deal I guess since subs are handled but something I like to include when using Scenarist and the big 3. 3) Can the SUP files generated by vobedit be imported in Maestro or Scenarist?

My first attempt. I got up to the point where I want to author in ifoedit. Ifoedit crashes instantly with no useful information (ifoedit.exe has generated errors and will die...) as soon as I load anything via the 'Scene changes / Chapters' dialog where I'm supposed to import chapter points. I'm trying to load the ifoedit-celltimes.txt file. Apparently I can mux if I don't import the chapters, but that's not helpful... It happens under Win2k and XP. ideas? I may be wasting my time with this anyway with NTSC video as discussed in thread.

quantum.... theres a simple reason for this error... IFOEdit requires you to rename IFOEdit-Celltimes.txt to just Celltimes.txt... otherwise it WILL crash/bailout when you try to load the chapters.. I should have mentioned this but I do it without thinking now myself so I failed to mention it :rolleyes: also re the thread you posted: it seems that NTSC may well cause you probs.. from the info in the thread I'd say that IFOEdit can't read the Flags (rtf and ttf) that pulldown enters into the file to make 23.9 encoded video play at the required dropframe rate. However, if my guess re this is correct, you shouldn't have a prob with TRUE dropframe encoded NTSC. i.e NTSC thats actually encoded at 30fps dropframe(29.9 approx) as opposed to using pulldown to insert flags into a FILM encoded stream. You might try a title like resident evil R1 to test this out. I have this in R1 form myself.. and If I remeber correctly it's a true Telecine transfer. I'll check and give it a blast over the next day or so and let u know how it goes.

Ahhh, thanks for the celltimes.txt tip. :-) It works. At least now I can continue and see for myself about how ifoedit handles NTSC. I'll post the results here when I get them.

JDobbs: Hello there, and thanks for your ongoing interest/developmetnt BTW. I'm a quiet but long-time fan... The quote you mentioned has already been addressed by you for the most part, and no complaints there. I had "been dreaming" of the inclusion of what is now IFOEDIT-CELLTIMES.TXT in adjusted cell mode. I had been editing ADJUSTED-CCE.TXT to make the cell list for IFOEdit "authoring". If you had time on a major update you could "fix" what isn't really your problem.... it's just one of those things... IFOEdit doesn't like the filename "IFOEDIT-CELLTIMES.TXT". Celltimes.txt IS ok, in fact it's the only thing that IS ok... once you realise it, this is no prob.. I only mention because, like the chap above, it can cause an "unexplained" crash on import into IFOEdit. IFOUpdate... still rocking.. :D

Ak47, Yeah, the first time I used this I also found out (the hard way, of course) that IFOEDIT wasn't very forgiving of the name. The reason I named the file as I did was so it wouldn't be confused when you write a lot of different chapter-type files... it said IFOEDIT right on it! But I think I just added to the confusion. I've renamed that file output to simply CELLTIMES.TXT on the write when using Adjusted mode and made a new minor release. The new version (v0.73) is attached. Just FYI, the project I've just decided to start working is a utility to remerge a CCE generated video-only VOB file back into the originals while giving you the option to choose which audio/subs to keep. It's meant to work like what you've outlined here and to make it a little easier to use (like some of the one-touch packages). I also wanted to do it so I could address the troublesome FILM-on-NTSC titles that throw IFOEDIT off. Thanks for the kind words! jdobbs

JDobbs, do you mean a CCE generated MPV file? I didn't think CCE makes VOBs. This sounds interesting. Would things like button over video from the original vobs be retained? Would the videos be broken by pgc or vobid? So far I haven't had much luck going the ifoedit authoring route. My last attempt at doing the extras for About Schmidt had audio synch problems. It was a multi-pgc vts with shared vobid's, and it had stills. I had to reauthor in scenarist by vobid. I'm looking forward to anything you put together. Ifoupdate is a ground-breaking and important tool. If you apply the same craftsmanship to your new concept, there's a good chance we'll have another quality tool to make our lives easier :-)